Information on U.S. Army helicopter AH-1G tail number 68-17083
The Army purchased this helicopter 1169
Total flight hours at this point: 00000186
Date: 05/09/70
Accident case number: 700509051
Unit: C/4/77 ARA 101 ABN
The station for this helicopter was Camp Evans in
Number killed in accident = 0 . . Injured = 0 . . Passengers = 0
costing 3500
Source(s) from which the incident was created or updated: Army Aviation Safety Center database.
Crew Members:
P O4 HALE D
Accident Summary:
T/O WAS ABORTED DUE TO LOSS OF RPM HARD LDG ICDT DMG \
Information on U.S. Army helicopter AH-1 tail number 68-17083
The Army purchased this helicopter 0769
Total flight hours at this point: 00001659
Date: 01/05/71 MIA-POW file reference number: 1689
Incident number: 71010519.KIA
Unit: HHT/1/9 CAV
South Vietnam
UTM grid coordinates: ZD060160
Original source(s) and document(s) from which the incident was created or updated: Defense Intelligence Agency Reference Notes. Defense Intelligence Agency Helicopter Loss database. Also: 1689 ()
Loss to Inventory
Crew: CRAMER, DONALD MARTIN; CREWMAN KIA/BR
Crew Members:
P CW2 CRAMER DONALD MARTIN BNR
PX SP4 ROGERS RONNIE VAGO KIA
REFNO Synopsis:
Over water Donald M. Cramer
(1689)
On January 5, 1971, Chief Warrant Officer Cramer and Specialist
Fourth Class Ronnie V. Rogers departed from the Hue/Phu Bai Air
Field to conduct a test of CWO Cramer's AH-1G Cobra helicopter
aircraft armament system. He had been cleared to test his weapons
in a free fire zone south southeast of Fire Support Base Normandy.
He was last reported in a coastal area of Thua Thien Province
approximately 20 kilometers east of the air field. Flying weather
at the time was judged to be poor and there was no radio
communications with him after takeoff. He did not return from the
weapon's system test and both crewmen were declared missing.
On January 8, 1971, the body of Specialist Rogers were located on
the beach in the general area where the AH-1G was last known to be
operating. An autopsy determined the cause of his death was due to
drowning.
Returning U.S. POWs had no information about the fate of CW2
Cramer. In June 1973 he was declared dead/body not recovered,
based on a presumptive finding of death.
SYNOPSIS: At 0210 hours on January 5, 1971, CW2 Donald M. Cramer, pilot of an
AH1G (tail #67-16083), departed the Hue/Phu Bai Airfield on a training flight
mission with SP4 Ronnie V. Rogers aboard. No contact was established after
takeoff. When the aircraft failed to return within a reasonable time, efforts
were made to establish radio contact. After checking all airfields and contact
bases in the area, an aerial search was initiated at 1640 hours, and lasted
until dark.
On January 8, SP4 Roger's body was found on the beach. The search shifted
primarily into the coastline areas until about January 20, with no sightings of
the aircraft or of CW2 Cramer.
Because it was determined that Rogers had drowned, it was assumed that the
aircraft departed its destination (a fire base), and crashed into the South
China Sea. CW2 Cramer was never found. He was listed Missing in Action.
This record was last updated on 05/25/98
The following is crew member information for this incident:
The following is Goldbook
information on US Army helicopter AH-1G tail number 68-17083
It is provided here as an ESTIMATE of the history of this helicopter
and is not intended to be the final authority.
This helicopter was purchased by the US Army in 1169.
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DATE FLT HRS UIC UNIT AREA POST COUNTRY 6911 0 0 W0Y6AA OS TO CONUS ITR CONUS AVCOMITR 6912 0 0 W0Y6AA OS TO CONUS ITR CONUS AVCOMITR 7001 0 0 W0Y6AA OS TO CONUS ITR CONUS AVCOMITR 7002 0 0 W0Y6AA OS TO CONUS ITR CONUS AVCOMITR 7003 3 3 WFJ8C0 C 4-77ATY 101AC VIETNAM RVN 7004 100 103 WFJ8C0 C 4-77ATY 101AC VIETNAM RVN 7005 83 186 WFJ8C0 C 4-77ATY 101AC VIETNAM RVN 7006 71 257 WFJ8C0 C 4-77ATY 101AC VIETNAM RVN 7007 36 293 WFJ8C0 C 4-77ATY 101AC VIETNAM RVN 7008 75 368 WAB0C0 C TP 2-17 101AB VIETNAM RVN 7009 52 420 WAB0C0 C TP 2-17 101AB VIETNAM RVN 7010 50 470 WAB0C0 C TP 2-17 101AB VIETNAM RVN 7011 34 504 WAB0C0 C TP 2-17 101AB VIETNAM RVN 7012 56 560 WAB0C0 C TP 2-17 101AB VIETNAM RVN
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Printed from databases on: 02/21/99
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